Yesterday, I had the fortunate opportunity to listen to Pastor Francis Chan speak to a group of about 150 folks from churches in the city of Minneapolis. It was a rich time, the message was powerful and I felt like the Spirit revealed a number of personal things for me to hear. I have read Crazy Love, the book written by Francis Chan, and in fact taught part of a series on the book in our church as we went through the book together just this last fall. I'm a fan.
One of the things that stood out yesterday was his comments regarding fame and the Christian Pastor. I wish I could remember the precise words but he was conveying the unique thing that God has done with his life, he has become "famous." The title of this post was part of a conversation he spoke of between he and another famed pastor, John Piper, "the system is set up for guys like us to fail," and it reflects the dilemma that men like them get put into in this day and age of the Church.
I was surprisingly refreshed by his candor about the topic. One young lady asked "how will you stay humble in light of this fame," to which he initially replied "I don't know." He did go on to express that it must be by the grace of God and shared of a past failure, the lessons that it had taught him, and how he would hope that such pain would help him remain humble in the future. I believed him. While he acknowledged his struggles with pride, common to every man, I get the impression that he feels this was thrust upon him, far more than it has been pursued. His recent decision to walk away from a mega-church I believe was, in part, motivated by his heart-felt resistance to continue on a path where he becomes more and more famous.
Why was it so refreshing to me? Because he acknowledged something that is going on with him and the American church that is not healthy. We are making superstar Christians. I had a couple of questions I would have liked to ask him after the message, but did not seize the opportunity. Mostly because I was trying to compose myself after a number of things that "hit my emotional and spiritual grid" in such a way that I was deeply moved. I wondered if I would blubber my way through questions. One question was personal, the other was related to this unusual phenomenon of Christian fame.
After the session was over, there was an opportunity to go and ask my questions in a more one on one manner, but what I anticipated might happen, happened. People lined up to get their book signed and to take photos of themselves with Francis. I admitted I was a fan a few lines back, and humbly (or more accurately embarrassingly) admit that I was tempted to bring a camera to the event myself, but somehow thought the wiser of it. Based on a few things he said in his message, I couldn't help but wonder if it makes his stomach turn that people want his autograph or that they want their picture taken with him. He smiled and signed graciously, I think he's a very kind man, that loves God and loves people, and wouldn't want to be rude or seemingly arrogant by not signing and posing. I wonder though if his heart was screaming inside, "please don't, please don't, please don't treat me as anything but a fellow brother in Christ." I grieved for him, I grieved for us, I grieved for me. I don't think this is the way it's supposed to be.
A few things I appreciated that he touched on regarding this subject.
- He had recently visited a church with about 28 people in attendance outside of Oakland, CA. He gave props to that pastor, "he rocked the Word of God." He went on to express that he was convinced that this pastor would be able to articulate theology far better than he and that, should he ever be invited to the Desiring God conference or a setting like this, that all would be so blessed and inspired to hear him speak. I really liked that, because it shows the reality that many unsung heroes of the faith are pastors in small churches around the world, that no one outside of their church and community will ever hear from. Pastors of "big churches" get invited to conferences because they are "successful" - I think we have sadly fallen into a short-sited culturally driven view of what a successful church is. Sadder yet, the messages that God might give to men that are in the throws of struggling churches might be wonderfully redeeming for the Church, but will never be heard because they are not "successful enough" to be invited to the table.
- He spoke of being in San Francisco for the time being, and feeling the pressure to start something new citing an angst he feels (perhaps self-imposed) "Francis, what are you going to do, it's been 3 months since you've left Cornerstone Church for some ministry God has called you to, what is it, you better get something going or people might think..." He's resisting the urge to start something just to start something, making himself wait on God's leading to begin, but serving those in need during this time.
- He asked the crowd candidly, "What would happen if I started a church in San Francisco?" The answer was obvious, Christians from other churches would leave their congregations in droves to come to his church. I don't think he was arrogant by saying that, I think he was right. I think the idea repulsed him and that he honestly believes that most people should stay in the congregations they are already in. This happened to him at his church in the suburbs of LA, and that too, you could tell was disturbing to him. It seemed as though he felt anguished by our Christian culture's tendency to do this.
- He commented about how he had received complaints along the way from those in his own congregation, "You don't "feed me" like John Piper does or Mark Driscoll" to which he replied "duh..."" I'm sure I was selfishly satisfied by this comment because it has happened to me numerous times. One trouble with superstar status is that everyone begins to compare their own pastors with the superstars. It's not good. I liked his response. "My goal is to equip people to be disciples, and disciples are to be disciplers. That's the kind of people I want to work with , those that are about doing the work of discipling."
His book Crazy Love is all about really living the Christian life, living by faith in a real God who is knowable. It's a great book, it was great for our church to go through, and it was great to be challenged by what he had to say in it. He started yesterday by asking "Are we really growing in love with a personal God, or are we in love with ministry, are we in love with knowing the Bible, are we in love with the activities of church, etc..." I think that church has faltered into many of these areas and sadly, rather than making the church more effective at fulfilling her mission, it is making it increasingly impotent.
So what does one like Francis do, now that he is in the position he is? That's a great question, and I'm honestly delighted to see someone that is struggling with it rather than presuming he should go on amassing numbers, often by drawing people away from other churches and/or starting a radio ministry. This not a critique on those that have, it's a hearty thank you for acknowledging the realities that come along with being a famous Christian and the unintended harm it can do to the greater Body.
I appreciate and sense in Francis (from afar) a desire to be faithful with what he has been given, not only in his gifting (he really is a phenomenal communicator) but also in his unique position, as a famous Christian. I believe his heart is to serve the Body for the good of the Kingdom. I appreciate the recognition that, because of what has happened, he will be able to do things and go places that most people frankly could not. I wonder if at the same time, he feels saddened that there are now things he cannot do or places he cannot go that he otherwise could if he were not famous. I wonder at times if he wishes he could be anonymous to the masses and only known very well to the few that he is loving and serving with all his heart.
I respect Francis Chan, I appreciate his heart, as I do for many other pastors that find themselves in this position, such as John Piper. I will pray for God to give them the wisdom to navigate the strange reality that they live in as humble servants of God. It would not be easy.
Do I have any advice? I'm not sure what I would say to Francis, or others that have been propped up by "the system," but I do have something to say to the Church that may be worth hearing. Though I understand how selfish this may sound in writing this as a pastor myself, I urge you love, respect, and honor your local pastors exceedingly more than the "famous" for your pastors are the ones that must give account to God himself as to how they have taught, led, and cared for you in their flock (Heb 13:17). Do not allow yourself to compare your pastor to another, especially one famed for an exceedingly strong gift from God, for that would be like comparing your spouse to another in only one dimension. Do not allow yourself to exalt God's messengers and servants beyond there rightful place - resist becoming a part of the system - bow to no one but our Lord himself, nether physically, nor internally with your affections. (1 Cor 1:10-17). Respect and honor those that God has given the larger Body as prophets and teachers by allowing the truth of God in their messages to teach you to become greater lovers of God and greater lovers of others, in the context of your local church. Do not elevate them more than the message from God they are trying to convey. This I believe is their heart, rather than to turn believers to "their teaching" they long to build the Body. I believe many have stepped out in faith with the hope of inspiring, challenging and/or encouraging the Church, with the unfortunate cultural response of elevating their voice above the message they are giving, which has been detrimental to their ministry's intention and worse yet, the Church they so love.
Bucking the system,
Andy